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  • #16
    don't go for that.

    u gals r rite. i went for the 1st trial promotion. but they were keeping on persuade ** to sign the package. they kept on saying that their facial is different from others. but to what they did to my face is , it was total the same process, nothing special. they offer ** a package 300 for 5facial since i am student. actually it's a acceptable range. but i just don't like the way they present. they made ** feel that all they want is let u sign the package, that's all. i also didn't get the free mask. coz just want to left the place was already damn difficult.****.....luck..never sign the package

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    • #17
      i am with them for 2 yrs

      yes, they are pushy
      yes, they kept asking ppl to sign sign sign
      yes, their packages are ex x x x x x
      yes, turnover rate very high!! keep changing my beautician!!

      But,
      i only have one thing to say, their products are gd and so much cheaper too (compare to all others i.e coslab,bioskin,modern beauty)

      the reason i stay with them is cos of the products only.

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      • #18
        Remember This Be Careful When Choosing/trying Out New

        Received such email.... it sounded so true.. be careful...

        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        LET THIS TRUE EXPERIENCE SERVE AS A WARNING!


        TO THE WOMEN : REMEMBER THIS BE CAREFUL WHEN CHOOSING/TRYING OUT NEW
        PRODUCTS ON YOUR FACE/BODY!

        TO THE MEN : WARN YOUR LOVED ONES!


        I MADE A MISTAKE BY SIGNING UP FOR A 10 COURSE PACKAGE WITHOUT TRYING IT
        OUT FIRST!

        DON'T EVER BELIEVE WHAT THESE SKIN CONSULTANTS SAID AS NOT ALL SKIN
        TYPES ARE THE SAME!

        THESE CONSULTANTS ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!



        24 Feb 2006 - I went to NEW YORK SKIN SOLUTIONS ("NYSS") at Pasir Ris
        for a facial. I asked for single facial but NYSS consultant, Jorenne
        Kee, persuaded (conned) me to sign up a 10 course (5-in-1 Skin
        Treatment) package totaling S$2,972.70 for both 10+1 treatments and
        products. She said results are guaranteed after 3 treatments! Several
        facial masks were then placed on my face and the facial treatment lasted
        almost 2 hours. As instructed, from that evening onwards I started
        using NYSS products. My 2nd treatment was scheduled for 10 Mar 2006.



        A few days later, my face starts to itch and acne starts to erupt.



        3 Mar 2006 (i.e. 7 days later) - The rashes got worst (especially around
        my eye areas) and bad acne eruptions all over my face. Called Jorenne
        and reported my skin itching, rashes and acne eruptions - she asked I
        come back to NYSS for review. The same evening, I went back to NYSS and
        Jorenne applied "Soothing Gel" on my face saying that it will help stop
        the itch/rashes/acne eruptions. While applying the gel, Jorenne even
        admitted to me that she may have given me too strong an application on
        my skin during my 1st treatment on 24 Feb 2006, which caused all the
        itching/rashes/acne problems.



        By Sunday, the "Soothing Gel" did not help and the rashes got worst! I
        could not get any sleep that night because of the discomfort!



        6 Mar 2006 - I went to my family GP in the morning. I told him
        everything and he advised I stop using NYSS products and stop the facial
        treatment as I have an acute allergic reaction to NYSS
        products/treatment. He even wrote a letter to NYSS advising them the
        same.
        He gave me oral antibiotics, a cream for my face and MC for the day.
        The same day, I went back to NYSS and showed them my totally messed-up
        face and showed them the GP letter. I told NYSS Manager, Selina Ong,
        that my GP advised me to stop the facial treatment and I want a refund.
        NYSS staff took pictures of my face and Selina promised that in about 2
        weeks time NYSS will refund me with a cheque.



        17 Mar 2006 - No news from NYSS. I called Selina asking for my refund
        and (guess what!) only now she told me their HQ wants me to have tests
        done at National Skin Centre ("NSC") to verify the cause of my skin
        problems. I asked her why is it only NOW that she asked me to go to
        NSC, why not on 6 Mar? Why wait after I have been on antibiotics for
        almost 3 weeks? She kept quiet and just replied in order for NYSS to
        refund they need a NSC report.



        Still hoping for my refund, I went to my GP that evening and asked for a
        referral letter to the NSC.



        3 Apr 2006 - I HAVE REPORTED THIS MATTER TO CASE.



        4 - 7 Apr 2006 - Patch tests done at NSC. Results : Acute severe
        irritant contact dermatitis to NYSS products/treatment. It also caused
        severe follicular irritation and acute facial acneiform rash.

        21 Apr 2006 - Selina told me she had reported my case to NYSS HQ but it
        did not go through and NYSS refused to refund me!



        When asked where is their HQ and who is their officer? Selina refused
        to say. I did a company search, found their HQ address and managed to
        speak to Jenny Wong, NYSS Specialist. Strangely enough, Jenny said that
        there is no report from Selina about my case???



        5 May 2006 - Obtained a full medical report from NSC.



        I wish to resolve this matter amicably but NYSS still refused to refund
        me.
        NYSS just don't bother about their customers once there is a problem.



        So ladies beware - do not sign up for facial packages! If you need a
        facial, try for 1 single treatment first (as advised by my GP) just in
        case.



        If you are now going through what I went through recently, report them
        to National Skin Centre immediately and have your skin tested (don't
        wait after 2 weeks!).



        If you once went through the same thing, report them to CASE and/or the
        relevant authorities, don't just keep quiet as we consumers should not
        be at the losing end.

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        • #19
          mmm i dont trust NYSS or london weight management..
          the way they do their commercials already tells you how desperate they are willing to stoop to get customers.
          if you notice, other more established companies use asian models on their advertisements.
          however NYSS and LWM use ang mohs in their advertisements, which i strongly belive that they're trying to target and abuse the fact that some people still belive in the european's supremacy over asians.
          so they think we're gullible enought to think everything that comes out from the mouth of an ang moh person is true and if he/she says it works, means it works.
          it irks me to see their advertisement.

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          • #20
            Ya it's horrid

            New York Skin Solutions has 5 outlets in Singapore , Sensualite has 5 outlets in Singapore and Yunnam now has 4 outlets.

            The sales staff are pressurized monthly to hit 20-35K monthly and they have very aggressive incentives to push to sales staff. It includes closing rate, average per customer.

            They will have lucky draws, free consultation to entice customers to come in. They even have specialists to assist in closing customers and sometimes these specialists are not even professionally sound or trained.

            I knew of one consultant who is asked to go back to work the very next day after her miscarriage and so i must say the company is only after $$$$. So be very very careful when you enter these outlets.

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            • #21
              Queries on New York Skin Solutions

              VainPod,

              You are with New York Skin Solutions for two years. May I know whether their products are really good? How much have you paid for the packages and products so far?


              Originally posted by VainPod
              i am with them for 2 yrs

              yes, they are pushy
              yes, they kept asking ppl to sign sign sign
              yes, their packages are ex x x x x x
              yes, turnover rate very high!! keep changing my beautician!!

              But,
              i only have one thing to say, their products are gd and so much cheaper too (compare to all others i.e coslab,bioskin,modern beauty)

              the reason i stay with them is cos of the products only.

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              • #22
                better dont go New York Skin Solution! My classmate was lured to sign up 2k + for the treatments and products. But no effect at all so she left for another beauty salon... Is soooo expensive and not effective at all.

                Then i got a girlfriend who sent sms upon seeing the tv advertisement giving free facial trial session. She got the trial and went to their branch at Pasir Ris WhiteSand. BEFORE the facial session there is already one consultant keep 'washing brain' her how good it is and so on...but my fren insisted to have trial and told the consultant that if the facial is that good she will come back to sign the package. According to what my fren had said... NYSS is v v v v pushy and very hard to leave that place is true. The consultant's face and attitude immediately change when she knew my fren was not going to signed any package. The facial THEN proceed... after the facial, the next day my fren got a very "jia liat" outbreak. After what i heard from my friends, I have condemn that place.

                I **** they are concerned abt ripping money from customer and not on the service they provide. Most of the professional beauty salon got professional business ethics. Normally after the 1st trial facial done then they will start talking about the price and packages available. Adversely this NYSS wanna collect money 1st before they do the trial "properly" for u. I guess my fren offended the consultant and they use harsh chemical on her face that y got acne eruption

                I would advice to go for first trial but dont signed up any package yet. After two or three days observing ur skin complexion and If you feel that is really good then signed up. Dont worry about what so ever promotion they have said in the first place. In fact anytime you stepped in to signed up they will definitely welcome u. And *** u still can do your bargain with them... 10 facial sessions free 5 sessions *** or *** so ever treatment u want just ask and probably u will be given. Just 'k ****' say you wanna try this XXX treatment...


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                • #23
                  Hey People! Dont be so naive. You like New York Skin Solutions, thinking it's from New York?? C'mmon. Just because they use ang mohs? More convincing? gosh!!
                  Judging from the complaints here. and the ones I have heard about Yun Nam, I pity those that fall for it. ****. Thought people should be more discerning these days in spending money....

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                  • #24
                    Pity commoners like us. Cant sue even if we see an unethical beauty outlet. I wish the government should have more regulations! I bet the NYSS thinks people like us would chicken out and not sue..That's why they are so brazen!

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                    • #25
                      yeap, i do agree their consultants are pretty pushy.. that's why till now i stil have package with them..

                      i sign up till don't know left with how many sessions with them..

                      for the soothing cream, i started recently and i got acne popping out(which my skin are usu acne free). going to stop that to see if that's the cause

                      actually quite regret to sign so many sessions with them but no idea how to withdraw from them..****.

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                      • #26
                        i m those naive type..if they say its good n sure see results, i will go all e way..lucky i came upon this forum..quite tempted to check it out but now i guess no need for the trouble.haha..thanks gals

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by kittysandy
                          Hey gals, please do not sign up packages from New York Skin Solutions, Sensualite... and there is another company that does hair loss for men and women.... They are all under this company call Euro Group. They are very agressive when it comes to sales and they literally force customers to buy products or sign up big packages with them. I have been in training in one of their centers before. The way they conduct trainings to consultants is to get consultants to force buyers to buy and they push up the package prices very high. They do not have integraty or honesty....
                          yes i agree..i went for interview before..they train people to reap customers off. i was posed this question>"our company products cost around $3.00...will you be able to push customers to buy as we sell them at $300..??." something like this..quite long ago..but the question is kinda posed this way. very big difference on the price to pay

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Melasony
                            mmm i dont trust NYSS or london weight management..
                            the way they do their commercials already tells you how desperate they are willing to stoop to get customers.
                            if you notice, other more established companies use asian models on their advertisements.
                            however NYSS and LWM use ang mohs in their advertisements, which i strongly belive that they're trying to target and abuse the fact that some people still belive in the european's supremacy over asians.
                            so they think we're gullible enought to think everything that comes out from the mouth of an ang moh person is true and if he/she says it works, means it works.
                            it irks me to see their advertisement.
                            I luv the way you write man! YA ang mor supremacy over asians!!! The owners might have thought they are still dealing with a generation of uneducated aunties or blur indo chinese. I wonder where the products are made in..Maybe China or Malaysia? TIme for name change?

                            Btw, u notice they always show a slim angmor in big pants?? no before after photos??? 1 look at her face, you can tell she was never that fat!!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by superBum
                              Please note that Sensualite slimming, New York Skin Solutions and Yunnan( hair) are under the same company, that is Yunnan Holdings. All of the consultants have a closing rate, that the reason why they are more aggressive. I used to be a consultant in Sensualite but that was like two years back so not too sure now they have a system like this in the facial line.
                              hey, this is something new eh... i've been to the above 2:- Yunnan and Sensualite. (both at different timming though) they are really agressive... u step in only. let u sign package. 2nd appointment to enhance my hair and body.. tell me got special promotion. buy another 3K package, get 5K credits. i havent even really seen e results and u r bugging me to buy?!?!?!

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                              • #30
                                Halo gals,

                                thank god i stumbled on this site... reading so many negative comments on NYSS. I was actually intending to try NYSS after seeing the CH8 programme show recently. But now, NO WAY!!! am i going there!

                                I ever won a trial from Yunnan Hair salon, but the consultant was damn pushy!!! b4 i even had my trial she was trying to make me sign a $7k package!! of course i will not, but she did not give up... keep pestering and would not let me go! At last i was mad, and i just walk off the shop.

                                10 years ago, i was also been "fleeced" by this Beauty Express salon, 2 or 3 consultants would cornered me till i give in to their demanding sales tactics... thats y i am very wary of going to facial salon.

                                I have also tried Bioskin b4, the consultants are not that agressive (so long never go not sure now still the same),but after many doings, dosent feel my conditions improve thats y stopped. Anyone got any good recommendation? ethical service and able to see results????

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